Brown ‘unlikely to be leader by election’
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| BROWN: Unhappy? |
Douglas Fraser: "What's Labour's position on a referendum today?"
Gordon Brown is unlikely to lead the Labour Party into the next General Election and is "tragically" unhappy in his role as Prime Minister, according to Frank Field, the Labour MP who is leading back-bench opposition to the abolition of the 10p tax rate.
Mr Field's vicious attack on the PM, claiming that he suffered from tempers of an "indescribable nature" and that he could be brought low by a defeat on the 10p tax band, led to warnings from ministers that Labour is in danger of spiralling into backstabbing that could to engulf the party.
Mr Field, who was once asked to "think the unthinkable" as a Welfare Reform Minister, said the unsayable. Despite rock-bottom poll ratings and a slew of character assassinations of Mr Brown in the recent memoirs of Tony Blair's inner circle, no-one on the government benches has yet suggested openly that the Prime Minister stand down to help Labour recover its electoral standing.
But Mr Field, predicting that the next election would almost certainly be at the latest possible opportunity in two years' time, said he would be "very surprised" if Mr Brown was still leader then.
He went on to describe Mr Brown's premiership as a tragedy. "Somebody whose real aim in life was to be Prime Minister, now has the task and seems to be so lacking in enjoyment in trying to carry it out," said Mr Field.
He urged Mr Brown to talk to loved ones about his political future and act on their advice - the clear inference being that he should resign.
Mr Field, who blames Mr Brown for his dismissal as a minister a decade ago, said he needed no persuading that the Prime Minister could be "testy" and "go off like a bloody volcano", as described by John Prescott in his recently serialised memoirs.
But Mr Field said people would not judge Mr Brown on memoirs but on the way
he currently appeared to the public.
"The awful fact that's coming across is that he's so unhappy in himself," he said. "I think everybody in the country who's watched a news clip with the Prime Minister on recognises that."
The exchange comes as Mr Brown prepares for a fightback centred around a draft Queen's Speech and amid further damaging disclosures in the memoirs of Cherie Blair, John Prescott and Lord Levy, Tony Blair's former fundraiser. Lord Levy attacked Mr Brown again yesterday claiming he did not show the "leadership necessary in a Prime Minister".
While Mr Brown's official spokesman insisted the Prime Minister would not be distracted by personality politics, the counter attack was led by Ed Balls, the Schools Minister and close ally of the Prime Minister.
Mr Balls was just as vicious in describing Mr Field as a loner and suggesting he was acting dishonourably, in an attempt to separate him from other Labour MPs who have joined the rebellion on the 10p tax rate.
Speaking at a media briefing, Mr Balls said: "I think people could look at what he was saying a few weeks ago and believe at that time that his intentions were honourable.
"As for what he said this morning I think I leave you to draw your own conclusions from that."
Mr Balls did not reserve his frankness for the government's enemies. He admitted that Labour was "behind the curve" on family finance policy and had focused too much on the international situation during last autumn's credit crunch instead of the effect on British families.
He also admitted the government had to sort out the 10p tax row "quickly" in order to win back the trust of voters.
However Mr Balls felt there was little likelihood of the government ever coming up with a solution that would satisfy Mr Field.
Mr Field said the removal of the 10p rate, announced by Mr Brown in his last Budget as Chancellor in 2007, had caused greater anger on the Labour back benches than he had ever previously seen.
"If we don't get a satisfactory deal, I think there's enough members on the Labour back benches who will, with others, block the Budget going through," he said.
"That will make his (Mr Brown's) position intolerable."
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Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 10:43pm Mon 12 May 08
Gordon Broon is pathalogically flawed and a control freak. Everytime there is trouble, Broon runs away and hides in the Downing Street toilet bit like Hitler hiding in the bunker. Churchill on the other hand was out on the streets during the blitz making rousing speeches.
Gordon Broon is pathalogically flawed and a control freak. Everytime there is trouble, Broon runs away and hides in the Downing Street toilet bit like Hitler hiding in the bunker. Churchill on the other hand was out on the streets during the blitz making rousing speeches.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 10:45pm Mon 12 May 08
wow good on Mr field although i have to say why didnt field come out with this at the time that it was announced that the 10p rate was going to be abolished.
Truth is that they are all terrified now that their seats are going to be weechd from under their behinds. labour has an outside chance of winning the election if they give brown the boot now and reinstate the 10p tax band. However i dont think they will.
wow good on Mr field although i have to say why didnt field come out with this at the time that it was announced that the 10p rate was going to be abolished.
Truth is that they are all terrified now that their seats are going to be weechd from under their behinds. labour has an outside chance of winning the election if they give brown the boot now and reinstate the 10p tax band. However i dont think they will.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 10:46pm Mon 12 May 08
wow good on Mr field although i have to say why didnt field come out with this at the time that it was announced that the 10p rate was going to be abolished.
Truth is that they are all terrified now that their seats are going to be weechd from under their behinds. labour has an outside chance of winning the election if they give brown the boot now and reinstate the 10p tax band. However i dont think they will.
wow good on Mr field although i have to say why didnt field come out with this at the time that it was announced that the 10p rate was going to be abolished.
Truth is that they are all terrified now that their seats are going to be weechd from under their behinds. labour has an outside chance of winning the election if they give brown the boot now and reinstate the 10p tax band. However i dont think they will.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 10:47pm Mon 12 May 08
oops soree frozen screen
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 10:49pm Mon 12 May 08
buying herald today
on basis of this article however if dougie fraser or anoyone else comes out with anything biased im not.
buying herald today
on basis of this article however if dougie fraser or anoyone else comes out with anything biased im not.
Posted by: beckypumps1, fife on 11:00pm Mon 12 May 08
Heres a link to the wendy story they pulled.
http://www.theherald
.co.uk/news/news/dis
play.var.2263246.0.A
lexander_isolated_as
_former_leaders_join
_attack.php
Heres a link to the wendy story they pulled.
http://www.theherald
.co.uk/news/news/dis
play.var.2263246.0.A
lexander_isolated_as
_former_leaders_join
_attack.php
Posted by: Charles McGrory, Glasgow on 11:00pm Mon 12 May 08
In an objective scale, Mr Brown is now reaping his own harvest of his numerous financial errors and mis-steps e.g. selling UK gold reserves at low prices, dismantling banking regulations, raiding and destroying pension funds of millions, financing the Iraq War, bankrupting his own Party, allowing on his watch, a debt-balloon economy in to inflate some 300% housing costs and now facing doubling energy, road fuel and food costs while only a few months ago he was claiming inflation was below his target of 2% and then raises millions of people of his own core voters from a tax rate of 10% to 20%!
On the subjective scale, Brown scuttled into the Lisbon Treaty signing when all the major European leaders had left, he did not even phone Alec Salmond for months if he even has yet, and Mr Brown never called Vladimir Putin in all his time left in office of President of the Russian Federation. Social Inhibition problems?
Then Mr Brown in ultimate denial claims that Wendy Alexander never said what millions heard her say on TV!
Carry on Labour. Bring it on!
In an objective scale, Mr Brown is now reaping his own harvest of his numerous financial errors and mis-steps e.g. selling UK gold reserves at low prices, dismantling banking regulations, raiding and destroying pension funds of millions, financing the Iraq War, bankrupting his own Party, allowing on his watch, a debt-balloon economy in to inflate some 300% housing costs and now facing doubling energy, road fuel and food costs while only a few months ago he was claiming inflation was below his target of 2% and then raises millions of people of his own core voters from a tax rate of 10% to 20%!
On the subjective scale, Brown scuttled into the Lisbon Treaty signing when all the major European leaders had left, he did not even phone Alec Salmond for months if he even has yet, and Mr Brown never called Vladimir Putin in all his time left in office of President of the Russian Federation. Social Inhibition problems?
Then Mr Brown in ultimate denial claims that Wendy Alexander never said what millions heard her say on TV!
Carry on Labour. Bring it on!
Posted by: Alex on 11:04pm Mon 12 May 08
Go on Gordon! - you show them you're still in charge - ask the Queen to dissolve Parliament and watch all your labour buddies sh1t themselves. You can stand at Westminster’s door and hand out the P45’s. This might ease the pain of getting your own P45 and being shown the door to political oblivion.
Go on Gordon! - you show them you're still in charge - ask the Queen to dissolve Parliament and watch all your labour buddies sh1t themselves. You can stand at Westminster’s door and hand out the P45’s. This might ease the pain of getting your own P45 and being shown the door to political oblivion.
Posted by: Strathturret, Montrose on 11:06pm Mon 12 May 08
wullie
Churchill was drinking in his bath much of the time!
wullie
Churchill was drinking in his bath much of the time!
Posted by: martin, dundee on 11:12pm Mon 12 May 08
When backbenchers realise that with Brown in charge they could lose their seats at the next election, then he will be forced to go.
It is also a possibility that Brown himself will lose his seat as opinion in his own constituency is moving against him.
I cant see him in charge of the Labour Party for very much longer.
When backbenchers realise that with Brown in charge they could lose their seats at the next election, then he will be forced to go.
It is also a possibility that Brown himself will lose his seat as opinion in his own constituency is moving against him.
I cant see him in charge of the Labour Party for very much longer.
Posted by: Andrew BOD, Aberdeen on 11:15pm Mon 12 May 08
The problem with Labour, both in Scotland and the UK, is that it's now getting personal. It's no longer about policy, it's persistently about leadership. Brown's leadership and Alexander's leadership. You can easily tell that it's nearing the end for both of them. They may survive these latest attacks, but the next wave will be stronger, then the next, and so on until the party can take no more.
Interestingly enough, it's Alexander who has fatally wounded Brown, because he has been forced to discuss 'Scottish' issues at the high profile PMQs. Any Scottish issue immediately reminds English MPs that there are too many Scots with influence at Westminster, which now largely presides over English policy. On top of that they see Scots in charge at Westminster and a Scottish Government delivering more favorable policies in Scotland, and the two are immediately connected. Even though nothing could be further from the truth. Brown's 'Scotchness' is another nail in the coffin of the PM.
The problem with Labour, both in Scotland and the UK, is that it's now getting personal. It's no longer about policy, it's persistently about leadership. Brown's leadership and Alexander's leadership. You can easily tell that it's nearing the end for both of them. They may survive these latest attacks, but the next wave will be stronger, then the next, and so on until the party can take no more.
Interestingly enough, it's Alexander who has fatally wounded Brown, because he has been forced to discuss 'Scottish' issues at the high profile PMQs. Any Scottish issue immediately reminds English MPs that there are too many Scots with influence at Westminster, which now largely presides over English policy. On top of that they see Scots in charge at Westminster and a Scottish Government delivering more favorable policies in Scotland, and the two are immediately connected. Even though nothing could be further from the truth. Brown's 'Scotchness' is another nail in the coffin of the PM.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 11:15pm Mon 12 May 08
Strathturnip
Another vapid comment.
Strathturnip
Another vapid comment.
Posted by: DougtheDug on 11:21pm Mon 12 May 08
[quote]Brown ‘unlikely to be leader by election’[/quote] Please no. We need Wendy and Gordon as the axis of imbecile at the next election.
With Frank Field and Wendy Alexander we're getting internal Labour feuding being played out in the national media. The Labour MP's and MSP's can see their seats and salaries slipping away and loyalty has its limits. We can only hope that Gordon and Wendy survive to 2010.
Frank Field's voting record from theyworkforyou.com Not such a good guy after all but you could say that about any Labour MP.
How Frank Field voted on key issues since 2001:
* Voted strongly for a transparent Parliament. votes, speeches
* Voted moderately against introducing a smoking ban. votes, speeches
* Voted moderately for introducing ID cards. votes, speeches
* Voted moderately for introducing foundation hospitals. votes, speeches
* Voted strongly for introducing student top-up fees. votes, speeches
* Voted moderately for Labour's anti-terrorism laws. votes, speeches
* Voted very strongly for the Iraq war. votes, speeches
* Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war. votes, speeches
* Voted very strongly for replacing Trident. votes, speeches
* Voted very strongly for the hunting ban. votes, speeches
* Voted moderately for equal gay rights. votes, speeches[quote]He urged Mr Brown to talk to loved ones about his political future and act on their advice...[/quote] That'll be Gordon talking to his Balls, Yvette and Ed.
Brown ‘unlikely to be leader by election’
Please no. We need Wendy and Gordon as the axis of imbecile at the next election.
With Frank Field and Wendy Alexander we're getting internal Labour feuding being played out in the national media. The Labour MP's and MSP's can see their seats and salaries slipping away and loyalty has its limits. We can only hope that Gordon and Wendy survive to 2010.
Frank Field's voting record from theyworkforyou.com Not such a good guy after all but you could say that about any Labour MP.
How Frank Field voted on key issues since 2001:
* Voted strongly for a transparent Parliament. votes, speeches
* Voted moderately against introducing a smoking ban. votes, speeches
* Voted moderately for introducing ID cards. votes, speeches
* Voted moderately for introducing foundation hospitals. votes, speeches
* Voted strongly for introducing student top-up fees. votes, speeches
* Voted moderately for Labour's anti-terrorism laws. votes, speeches
* Voted very strongly for the Iraq war. votes, speeches
* Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war. votes, speeches
* Voted very strongly for replacing Trident. votes, speeches
* Voted very strongly for the hunting ban. votes, speeches
* Voted moderately for equal gay rights. votes, speeches
He urged Mr Brown to talk to loved ones about his political future and act on their advice...
That'll be Gordon talking to his Balls, Yvette and Ed.
Posted by: Observer, Glasgow on 11:26pm Mon 12 May 08
[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote:
Strathturnip Another vapid comment.[/quote]
Another vapid comment.
From Wullie.
Wullie wrote:
Strathturnip Another vapid comment.
Another vapid comment.
From Wullie.
Posted by: Carnwarth on 11:29pm Mon 12 May 08
[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote:
Strathturnip Another vapid comment.[/quote] Stop being such a waste of space Wullie!
Wullie wrote:
Strathturnip Another vapid comment.
Stop being such a waste of space Wullie!
Posted by: Carnwarth on 11:37pm Mon 12 May 08
[quote][bold]DougtheDug[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Brown ‘unlikely to be leader by election’[/quote] Please no. We need Wendy and Gordon as the axis of imbecile at the next election. With Frank Field and Wendy Alexander we're getting internal Labour feuding being played out in the national media. The Labour MP's and MSP's can see their seats and salaries slipping away and loyalty has its limits. We can only hope that Gordon and Wendy survive to 2010. Frank Field's voting record from theyworkforyou.com Not such a good guy after all but you could say that about any Labour MP. How Frank Field voted on key issues since 2001: * Voted strongly for a transparent Parliament. votes, speeches * Voted moderately against introducing a smoking ban. votes, speeches * Voted moderately for introducing ID cards. votes, speeches * Voted moderately for introducing foundation hospitals. votes, speeches * Voted strongly for introducing student top-up fees. votes, speeches * Voted moderately for Labour's anti-terrorism laws. votes, speeches * Voted very strongly for the Iraq war. votes, speeches * Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war. votes, speeches * Voted very strongly for replacing Trident. votes, speeches * Voted very strongly for the hunting ban. votes, speeches * Voted moderately for equal gay rights. votes, speeches[quote]He urged Mr Brown to talk to loved ones about his political future and act on their advice...[/quote] That'll be Gordon talking to his Balls, Yvette and Ed.[/quote] No need to go to theyworkforyou.com to know Field is a right-wing populist - don't you remember how he was loathed by local activists in Merseyside but was rescued from deselection by the Labour leadership?
DougtheDug wrote:
Brown ‘unlikely to be leader by election’
Please no. We need Wendy and Gordon as the axis of imbecile at the next election. With Frank Field and Wendy Alexander we're getting internal Labour feuding being played out in the national media. The Labour MP's and MSP's can see their seats and salaries slipping away and loyalty has its limits. We can only hope that Gordon and Wendy survive to 2010. Frank Field's voting record from theyworkforyou.com Not such a good guy after all but you could say that about any Labour MP. How Frank Field voted on key issues since 2001: * Voted strongly for a transparent Parliament. votes, speeches * Voted moderately against introducing a smoking ban. votes, speeches * Voted moderately for introducing ID cards. votes, speeches * Voted moderately for introducing foundation hospitals. votes, speeches * Voted strongly for introducing student top-up fees. votes, speeches * Voted moderately for Labour's anti-terrorism laws. votes, speeches * Voted very strongly for the Iraq war. votes, speeches * Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war. votes, speeches * Voted very strongly for replacing Trident. votes, speeches * Voted very strongly for the hunting ban. votes, speeches * Voted moderately for equal gay rights. votes, speechesHe urged Mr Brown to talk to loved ones about his political future and act on their advice...
That'll be Gordon talking to his Balls, Yvette and Ed.
No need to go to theyworkforyou.com to know Field is a right-wing populist - don't you remember how he was loathed by local activists in Merseyside but was rescued from deselection by the Labour leadership?
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 11:41pm Mon 12 May 08
Apropos of nothing I suppose except the lack of substance in certain posters contributions:
Leader of the Methadones and the Mopes, too.
Wears a Green Day hat; he don't watch the news.
He's rough; he's tough; he's fun to have around.
He ain't no fecking clown.
He's Danny Vapid, the punk rocker - oh yeah!
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
And he's okay to me.
I'm so sick of hearing stupid rumors flying around.
One more fecking time, and someone's head'll get a pound.
You phony kids, go listen to your ska.
Get beat up by your ma.
Soon you'll be a stupid, college ****
Like your heroes.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
But he's okay to me
Apropos of nothing I suppose except the lack of substance in certain posters contributions:
Leader of the Methadones and the Mopes, too.
Wears a Green Day hat; he don't watch the news.
He's rough; he's tough; he's fun to have around.
He ain't no fecking clown.
He's Danny Vapid, the punk rocker - oh yeah!
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
And he's okay to me.
I'm so sick of hearing stupid rumors flying around.
One more fecking time, and someone's head'll get a pound.
You phony kids, go listen to your ska.
Get beat up by your ma.
Soon you'll be a stupid, college ****
Like your heroes.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
But he's okay to me
Posted by: Carnwarth on 11:46pm Mon 12 May 08
[quote][bold]Scunnert[/bold] wrote:
Apropos of nothing I suppose except the lack of substance in certain posters contributions: Leader of the Methadones and the Mopes, too. Wears a Green Day hat; he don't watch the news. He's rough; he's tough; he's fun to have around. He ain't no fecking clown. He's Danny Vapid, the punk rocker - oh yeah! Danny Vapid ain't no ****. Danny Vapid ain't no ****. Danny Vapid ain't no ****. And he's okay to me. I'm so sick of hearing stupid rumors flying around. One more fecking time, and someone's head'll get a pound. You phony kids, go listen to your ska. Get beat up by your ma. Soon you'll be a stupid, college **** Like your heroes. Danny Vapid ain't no ****. Danny Vapid ain't no ****. Danny Vapid ain't no ****. But he's okay to me[/quote] Typically, your post lacks substance.
Scunnert wrote:
Apropos of nothing I suppose except the lack of substance in certain posters contributions: Leader of the Methadones and the Mopes, too. Wears a Green Day hat; he don't watch the news. He's rough; he's tough; he's fun to have around. He ain't no fecking clown. He's Danny Vapid, the punk rocker - oh yeah! Danny Vapid ain't no ****. Danny Vapid ain't no ****. Danny Vapid ain't no ****. And he's okay to me. I'm so sick of hearing stupid rumors flying around. One more fecking time, and someone's head'll get a pound. You phony kids, go listen to your ska. Get beat up by your ma. Soon you'll be a stupid, college **** Like your heroes. Danny Vapid ain't no ****. Danny Vapid ain't no ****. Danny Vapid ain't no ****. But he's okay to me
Typically, your post lacks substance.
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 11:49pm Mon 12 May 08
[bold]Gordon Brown
[/bold]
[quote] "indescribable nature"[/quote]
He's a childish moody **** in plain english.
Gordon Brown
"indescribable nature"
He's a childish moody **** in plain english.
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 11:51pm Mon 12 May 08
[quote][bold]Scunnert[/bold] wrote:
Apropos of nothing I suppose except the lack of substance in certain posters contributions:
Leader of the Methadones and the Mopes, too.
Wears a Green Day hat; he don't watch the news.
He's rough; he's tough; he's fun to have around.
He ain't no fecking clown.
He's Danny Vapid, the punk rocker - oh yeah!
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
And he's okay to me.
I'm so sick of hearing stupid rumors flying around.
One more fecking time, and someone's head'll get a pound.
You phony kids, go listen to your ska.
Get beat up by your ma.
Soon you'll be a stupid, college ****
Like your heroes.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
But he's okay to me[/quote] I hate it when they do that!
The first offending word defined:
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**** (1)
1279, "bundle of twigs bound up," from O.Fr. **** "bundle of sticks," from It. faggotto, dim. of V.L. *facus, from L. fascis "bundle of wood" (see fasces). Esp. used for burning heretics (a sense attested from 1555), so that phrase fire and **** was used to mean "punishment of a heretic." Heretics who recanted were required to wear an embroidered figure of a **** on their sleeve, as an emblem and reminder of what they deserved.
You can find out if you fit the second offending word here:
tinyurl.com/29ba44
Scunnert wrote:
Apropos of nothing I suppose except the lack of substance in certain posters contributions:
Leader of the Methadones and the Mopes, too.
Wears a Green Day hat; he don't watch the news.
He's rough; he's tough; he's fun to have around.
He ain't no fecking clown.
He's Danny Vapid, the punk rocker - oh yeah!
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
And he's okay to me.
I'm so sick of hearing stupid rumors flying around.
One more fecking time, and someone's head'll get a pound.
You phony kids, go listen to your ska.
Get beat up by your ma.
Soon you'll be a stupid, college ****
Like your heroes.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
Danny Vapid ain't no ****.
But he's okay to me
I hate it when they do that!
The first offending word defined:
Online Etymology Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This
**** (1)
1279, "bundle of twigs bound up," from O.Fr. **** "bundle of sticks," from It. faggotto, dim. of V.L. *facus, from L. fascis "bundle of wood" (see fasces). Esp. used for burning heretics (a sense attested from 1555), so that phrase fire and **** was used to mean "punishment of a heretic." Heretics who recanted were required to wear an embroidered figure of a **** on their sleeve, as an emblem and reminder of what they deserved.
You can find out if you fit the second offending word here:
tinyurl.com/29ba44
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 11:52pm Mon 12 May 08
Mrs Carnworth
Listen love. Do your husband a favour and make him a cup of cocoa and fetch him his favourite bedroom slippers. There's a good girl.Night, night.
Mrs Carnworth
Listen love. Do your husband a favour and make him a cup of cocoa and fetch him his favourite bedroom slippers. There's a good girl.Night, night.
Posted by: Carnwarth on 11:55pm Mon 12 May 08
[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote:
Mrs Carnworth Listen love. Do your husband a favour and make him a cup of cocoa and fetch him his favourite bedroom slippers. There's a good girl.Night, night.[/quote] What does your weird fantasy life have to do with the story?
Wullie wrote:
Mrs Carnworth Listen love. Do your husband a favour and make him a cup of cocoa and fetch him his favourite bedroom slippers. There's a good girl.Night, night.
What does your weird fantasy life have to do with the story?
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 12:01am Tue 13 May 08
[quote]Most states have laws in place to protect against unreasonable, unwarranted, unwelcome and persistent attention - all of which adds up to "stalking." With justification and proof, anybody can request and receive legal protection through protective court orders or court orders that mandate a particular distance has to be maintained between a stalker and the would be victim.
The internet is still a relatively new venue, a law unto itself, not unlike what the old, wild western frontier must have been like for the unruly cowboy or the fastest gunslinger. Although the cyber venue is gaining some attention in courts around the country, and although things are slowly changing, there is still a lack of protection for the innocent.
A few years ago a faceless person on the internet had the unfair and unchecked capability of being able to destroy another person's good name using only their fingertips and a keyboard. Recently, however, courts are ruling that internet email is a valid form of communication, i.e. authors are, indeed, accountable for what they write and send to public email lists, chat forums or to private individuals if what they write constitutes untruth or is slanderous.[/quote]
http://www.angelfire
.com/wv/StormMastiff
s/cyberstalker.html
Most states have laws in place to protect against unreasonable, unwarranted, unwelcome and persistent attention - all of which adds up to "stalking." With justification and proof, anybody can request and receive legal protection through protective court orders or court orders that mandate a particular distance has to be maintained between a stalker and the would be victim.
The internet is still a relatively new venue, a law unto itself, not unlike what the old, wild western frontier must have been like for the unruly cowboy or the fastest gunslinger. Although the cyber venue is gaining some attention in courts around the country, and although things are slowly changing, there is still a lack of protection for the innocent.
A few years ago a faceless person on the internet had the unfair and unchecked capability of being able to destroy another person's good name using only their fingertips and a keyboard. Recently, however, courts are ruling that internet email is a valid form of communication, i.e. authors are, indeed, accountable for what they write and send to public email lists, chat forums or to private individuals if what they write constitutes untruth or is slanderous.
http://www.angelfire
.com/wv/StormMastiff
s/cyberstalker.html
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:04am Tue 13 May 08
Frank Field[quote]Gordon Brown is unlikely to lead the Labour Party into the next General Election and is "tragically" unhappy in his role as Prime Minister,[/quote] We are still waiting for him show any leadership qualities, and not in a million years can he be as unhappy in his role as we are with him.
Frank Field
Gordon Brown is unlikely to lead the Labour Party into the next General Election and is "tragically" unhappy in his role as Prime Minister,
We are still waiting for him show any leadership qualities, and not in a million years can he be as unhappy in his role as we are with him.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 12:05am Tue 13 May 08
Mrs Carnwitch
You never comment on the topic. You just make bitchy, sarcastic , little remarks about other posters.
Mrs Carnwitch
You never comment on the topic. You just make bitchy, sarcastic , little remarks about other posters.
Posted by: Carnwarth on 12:11am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote:
Mrs Carnwitch You never comment on the topic. You just make bitchy, sarcastic , little remarks about other posters.[/quote] I made reference to Field's politics and his being deselected which is, I think, a substantive post on the topic - I also commented on your "Strathturnip Another vapid comment" non-comment, so
1. "You never comment on the topic" = a lie
2. "You just make bitchy, sarcastic , little remarks about other posters." = a lie combined with a certain lack of personal insight!
Wullie wrote:
Mrs Carnwitch You never comment on the topic. You just make bitchy, sarcastic , little remarks about other posters.
I made reference to Field's politics and his being deselected which is, I think, a substantive post on the topic - I also commented on your "Strathturnip Another vapid comment" non-comment, so
1. "You never comment on the topic" = a lie
2. "You just make bitchy, sarcastic , little remarks about other posters." = a lie combined with a certain lack of personal insight!
Posted by: Seargent Fury, south of the river on 12:23am Tue 13 May 08
Wullie very occasionally you can hit the nail on the head. Most of the the time we'd like to hit you on the head. You are nothing but an embarrassment to the SNP, to Aberdeen and to yourself. Do Scotland and yourself a favour and shut the f*** up now and for evermore.
As for Churchill, he was an alcoholic manic depressive who happened to have 4 good years. The rest of his career was a disaster for the entire working class throughout the UK. The slaughter at Gallipoli was his c*ck-up, he was the guy who sent troops to Glasgow in 1919 and as for his role during the General Strike..... If ever history was kind to a guy, it was him. Trust the english to laud him as some kind of hero....
Wullie very occasionally you can hit the nail on the head. Most of the the time we'd like to hit you on the head. You are nothing but an embarrassment to the SNP, to Aberdeen and to yourself. Do Scotland and yourself a favour and shut the f*** up now and for evermore.
As for Churchill, he was an alcoholic manic depressive who happened to have 4 good years. The rest of his career was a disaster for the entire working class throughout the UK. The slaughter at Gallipoli was his c*ck-up, he was the guy who sent troops to Glasgow in 1919 and as for his role during the General Strike..... If ever history was kind to a guy, it was him. Trust the english to laud him as some kind of hero....
Posted by: Yeti on 12:24am Tue 13 May 08
A case of be careful what you wish for?
A case of be careful what you wish for?
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 12:25am Tue 13 May 08
Mrs Carnwich says
"You never comment on the topic" = a lie''
Mrs Carnwich said at 11.29pm and 11.55pm
''Stop being such a waste of space Wullie!'' and
''What does your weird fantasy life have to do with the story?''
1.Hmmm, let me see. Mrs Carwitch = a liar .
2.Mrs Carwitch = a sarcastic ****.
I rest my case. Now run along there's a good girl.
Mrs Carnwich says
"You never comment on the topic" = a lie''
Mrs Carnwich said at 11.29pm and 11.55pm
''Stop being such a waste of space Wullie!'' and
''What does your weird fantasy life have to do with the story?''
1.Hmmm, let me see. Mrs Carwitch = a liar .
2.Mrs Carwitch = a sarcastic ****.
I rest my case. Now run along there's a good girl.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 12:26am Tue 13 May 08
The blanked out word was bitchh.
The blanked out word was bitchh.
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 12:28am Tue 13 May 08
Animated, sequantisised and computerized
through a blinding winds of avidity
Synthetised, robotized and dehumanized
hybriding flesh with technology
Relapse of a lecherous humanity
Contemptuous cupidity
Rigor sustains charity
mass degradation almost completed
Eulogized, neurologised...ascet
isised
a world emaciated by malevolence
Materialised, idealised...monopoli
sed
violate greed and senses
Unto the surviving humanity
...the final epitaph
Caustic depression of avidity
the cyberwar is coming
Countdown to imminent annihilation
Effluvium of cupidity
Dreary hopes of emptiness
cyberwar is the answer
Animated, sequantisised and computerized
through a blinding winds of avidity
Synthetised, robotized and dehumanized
hybriding flesh with technology
Relapse of a lecherous humanity
Contemptuous cupidity
Rigor sustains charity
mass degradation almost completed
Eulogized, neurologised...ascet
isised
a world emaciated by malevolence
Materialised, idealised...monopoli
sed
violate greed and senses
Unto the surviving humanity
...the final epitaph
Caustic depression of avidity
the cyberwar is coming
Countdown to imminent annihilation
Effluvium of cupidity
Dreary hopes of emptiness
cyberwar is the answer
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 12:31am Tue 13 May 08
Gordon Brown - The Strangler
Gordon Brown, tax me, go on!
Take my money - almost all gone!
With New Labour in,
We'll just never win.
Ever a frown, with Gordon Brown.
Every new budget hurts like the last.
Mortgage relief ends very fast.
Fate? That's one in The Eye,
Flush? I'm sunk...high and dry.
Interest rates never down, with Gordon Brown.
Gordon Brown found a temptress,
Wed at last, she in a naff dress.
Shhhhhh! The damned tight-fisted git,
Even spent nowt on it.
Why, he'll never go down, with Sarah Brown.
Gordon Brown - The Strangler
Gordon Brown, tax me, go on!
Take my money - almost all gone!
With New Labour in,
We'll just never win.
Ever a frown, with Gordon Brown.
Every new budget hurts like the last.
Mortgage relief ends very fast.
Fate? That's one in The Eye,
Flush? I'm sunk...high and dry.
Interest rates never down, with Gordon Brown.
Gordon Brown found a temptress,
Wed at last, she in a naff dress.
Shhhhhh! The damned tight-fisted git,
Even spent nowt on it.
Why, he'll never go down, with Sarah Brown.
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 12:33am Tue 13 May 08
Gordon Brown wearing a frown
Under my skin getting me down
No where to hide
Just a thorn in my side
Always a frown with Gordon Brown
Every time just like the last
words are said right from the past
the conclusions the same
I’m always in pain
Always a frown with Gordon Brown
Gordon Brown’s Labour is dead
Serving the rich has gone to his head
Screwing the poor
Always his law
Always a frown with Gordon Brown
Gordon Brown wearing a frown
Under my skin getting me down
No where to hide
Just a thorn in my side
Always a frown with Gordon Brown
Every time just like the last
words are said right from the past
the conclusions the same
I’m always in pain
Always a frown with Gordon Brown
Gordon Brown’s Labour is dead
Serving the rich has gone to his head
Screwing the poor
Always his law
Always a frown with Gordon Brown
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 12:36am Tue 13 May 08
Y Blodyn Pinc
To TANNENBAUM
Our symbol now is palest pink,
This song should make you stop and think.
Jim Connell's one is growing old,
It's time to sing of purest gold.
So work like slaves and don't ask why, [Chorus]
The money god we'll deify.
Though theorists preach and lefties jeer,
We'll keep the pink rose growing here.
Look round, the Tory loves to gaze,
The stock exchange now sings its praise,
In money's vaults its hymns are sung;
Accountants swell the surging throng.
It waves above from some great height,
You know this perfumed flower's right
To slay the movement's sacred cow,
We're sure to change their colours now.
So let's forget the triumphs past,
And bury brotherhood at last
The coins are bright, the symbol plain,
For money's right and money's gain.
Now let us join the weak and base,
And merge with them in their good race
To become the rich man's clown,
One day we think we'll wear his crown.
So kneel we down and swear we all,
The Stock Exchange shall hear our call;
And though I know you think we're dim,
This song shall be our parting hymn.
Y Blodyn Pinc
To TANNENBAUM
Our symbol now is palest pink,
This song should make you stop and think.
Jim Connell's one is growing old,
It's time to sing of purest gold.
So work like slaves and don't ask why,
The money god we'll deify.
Though theorists preach and lefties jeer,
We'll keep the pink rose growing here.
Look round, the Tory loves to gaze,
The stock exchange now sings its praise,
In money's vaults its hymns are sung;
Accountants swell the surging throng.
It waves above from some great height,
You know this perfumed flower's right
To slay the movement's sacred cow,
We're sure to change their colours now.
So let's forget the triumphs past,
And bury brotherhood at last
The coins are bright, the symbol plain,
For money's right and money's gain.
Now let us join the weak and base,
And merge with them in their good race
To become the rich man's clown,
One day we think we'll wear his crown.
So kneel we down and swear we all,
The Stock Exchange shall hear our call;
And though I know you think we're dim,
This song shall be our parting hymn.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 12:36am Tue 13 May 08
Sergent Bilko says
''shut the f*** up now and for evermore''.
So you dont believe in freedom of speech then ? You want everyone to be like sheep and post the same banal,inane comments that everyone else does. That would be dull and boring bit like Stalin's Russia. Is that what you want ? You dont want people to hold a different point of view, is that it ?
Sergent Bilko says
''shut the f*** up now and for evermore''.
So you dont believe in freedom of speech then ? You want everyone to be like sheep and post the same banal,inane comments that everyone else does. That would be dull and boring bit like Stalin's Russia. Is that what you want ? You dont want people to hold a different point of view, is that it ?
Posted by: Carnwarth on 12:42am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote:
Sergent Bilko says ''shut the f*** up now and for evermore''. So you dont believe in freedom of speech then ? You want everyone to be like sheep and post the same banal,inane comments that everyone else does. That would be dull and boring bit like Stalin's Russia. Is that what you want ? You dont want people to hold a different point of view, is that it ? [/quote] There is clearly too much (or perhaps not quite enough) drink in Wullie and Scunurt's respective systems tonight. And to think they are allowed the vote.
Now, back to the story - is Brown payign the price for his failure to suppress the growth of the Pelagian heresy in South Amish country? Well, it is more relevant that Wullie's attempts.
Wullie wrote:
Sergent Bilko says ''shut the f*** up now and for evermore''. So you dont believe in freedom of speech then ? You want everyone to be like sheep and post the same banal,inane comments that everyone else does. That would be dull and boring bit like Stalin's Russia. Is that what you want ? You dont want people to hold a different point of view, is that it ?
There is clearly too much (or perhaps not quite enough) drink in Wullie and Scunurt's respective systems tonight. And to think they are allowed the vote.
Now, back to the story - is Brown payign the price for his failure to suppress the growth of the Pelagian heresy in South Amish country? Well, it is more relevant that Wullie's attempts.
Posted by: Los Angeles, Edinburgh on 12:43am Tue 13 May 08
I think our English friends would call the low standard of this forum, "pants." And that would be kind.
I think our English friends would call the low standard of this forum, "pants." And that would be kind.
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 12:44am Tue 13 May 08
God Wullie how many stalkers do you have?
God Wullie how many stalkers do you have?
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 12:49am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Los Angeles[/bold] wrote:
I think our English friends would call the low standard of this forum, "pants." And that would be kind.
[/quote] Pants? Haven't heard that one LA but if it means **** then I'd agree.
Los Angeles wrote:
I think our English friends would call the low standard of this forum, "pants." And that would be kind.
Pants? Haven't heard that one LA but if it means **** then I'd agree.
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 12:50am Tue 13 May 08
In other words - Keech.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 12:51am Tue 13 May 08
Mrs Carnwitch says
''there is clearly too much (or perhaps not quite enough) drink in Wullie and Scunurt's respective systems tonight.''
What a suprise, another bitchy sarcastic remark. The poor woman must have tourettes, squealing out sarcastic remarks every 10 seconds. Yup, woman should never been given the vote.
Mrs Carnwitch says
''there is clearly too much (or perhaps not quite enough) drink in Wullie and Scunurt's respective systems tonight.''
What a suprise, another bitchy sarcastic remark. The poor woman must have tourettes, squealing out sarcastic remarks every 10 seconds. Yup, woman should never been given the vote.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 12:56am Tue 13 May 08
Mrs Carnwitch says
''There is clearly too much (or perhaps not quite enough) drink in Wullie and Scunurt's respective systems tonight.''
Scunert and I may be drunk, but in the morning we will be sober.
You Mrs Carnwitch are an ugly old cow and you will wake up in the morning and you will still be an ugly old cow.
Mrs Carnwitch says
''There is clearly too much (or perhaps not quite enough) drink in Wullie and Scunurt's respective systems tonight.''
Scunert and I may be drunk, but in the morning we will be sober.
You Mrs Carnwitch are an ugly old cow and you will wake up in the morning and you will still be an ugly old cow.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 1:05am Tue 13 May 08
Scunnert
Have you noticed when women get involved in anything they wreck it, from Cleopatra breaking up the Roman Empire and starting a civil war between Octavian and Cleopatra's lover Mark Anthony to Yoko Ohno breaking up the Beatles.
Mrs Cartwich and Mrs Odd has single handedly wrecked this thread. Thanks a bunch girls.
Scunnert
Have you noticed when women get involved in anything they wreck it, from Cleopatra breaking up the Roman Empire and starting a civil war between Octavian and Cleopatra's lover Mark Anthony to Yoko Ohno breaking up the Beatles.
Mrs Cartwich and Mrs Odd has single handedly wrecked this thread. Thanks a bunch girls.
Posted by: Seargent Fury, south of the river on 1:16am Tue 13 May 08
Only one wrecker here Wullie and that's you, perhaps you are really deep-cover BNP along with PtbS?
Strange you should mention Stalin, if it wasn't for that fine chap and the wonderful people he had the honour to lead, your cigar puffing, brandy-swilling enemy of the people would have had a very different end. Thank Uncle Joe and the Red Army that we aren't having this conversation in German. Churchill was merely a bit player.
Only one wrecker here Wullie and that's you, perhaps you are really deep-cover BNP along with PtbS?
Strange you should mention Stalin, if it wasn't for that fine chap and the wonderful people he had the honour to lead, your cigar puffing, brandy-swilling enemy of the people would have had a very different end. Thank Uncle Joe and the Red Army that we aren't having this conversation in German. Churchill was merely a bit player.
Posted by: Steve A, glasgow on 1:19am Tue 13 May 08
Who thinks we should get a guest politician on here to debate with us say once a week?
Who thinks we should get a guest politician on here to debate with us say once a week?
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 1:19am Tue 13 May 08
Wullie - I believe the lady in question is a labour troll. She rarely comments on the article in question preferring to attack other posters without cause or provocation. But then, what can one expect of someone who thinks "black people make good dancers"?
Wullie - I believe the lady in question is a labour troll. She rarely comments on the article in question preferring to attack other posters without cause or provocation. But then, what can one expect of someone who thinks "black people make good dancers"?
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 1:24am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Seargent Fury[/bold] wrote:
Only one wrecker here Wullie and that's you, perhaps you are really deep-cover BNP along with PtbS?
Strange you should mention Stalin, if it wasn't for that fine chap and the wonderful people he had the honour to lead, your cigar puffing, brandy-swilling enemy of the people would have had a very different end. Thank Uncle Joe and the Red Army that we aren't having this conversation in German. Churchill was merely a bit player.[/quote] I think Sarge that it would be more fitting to extend the honours to Marshal Zukov rather than "Uncle Joe" mass murderer and psychopath that he was.
Seargent Fury wrote:
Only one wrecker here Wullie and that's you, perhaps you are really deep-cover BNP along with PtbS?
Strange you should mention Stalin, if it wasn't for that fine chap and the wonderful people he had the honour to lead, your cigar puffing, brandy-swilling enemy of the people would have had a very different end. Thank Uncle Joe and the Red Army that we aren't having this conversation in German. Churchill was merely a bit player.
I think Sarge that it would be more fitting to extend the honours to Marshal Zukov rather than "Uncle Joe" mass murderer and psychopath that he was.
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 1:24am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Steve A[/bold] wrote:
Who thinks we should get a guest politician on here to debate with us say once a week?[/quote] Great idea Steve.
Steve A wrote:
Who thinks we should get a guest politician on here to debate with us say once a week?
Great idea Steve.
Posted by: Karin, glasgae. on 1:26am Tue 13 May 08
wendy first i say
bring it on..................
.....
wendy first i say
bring it on..................
.....
Posted by: Scunnert, Travelling in Nihlon on 1:28am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Karin[/bold] wrote:
wendy first i say
bring it on..................
.....[/quote] Is she oot ae hidin?
Karin wrote:
wendy first i say
bring it on..................
.....
Is she oot ae hidin?
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 1:31am Tue 13 May 08
Sergent Beria says
''Stalin, if it wasn't for that fine chap''
Aye, Stalin who signed a non aggression pact with Hitler in 1939.
Invaded and carved up Poland with Hitler.
Invaded free Latvia , Estonia , Lithuania and Finland.
Murdered thousands of Polish officers in the Katyn forest in 1940.
Killed thousands of the Red Army officer class in show trials in the 1930s.
Threw millions of people into the Gulag
Aye, Stalin was a fine chap, kind to children and loved animals. Give me a break . You commie git.
Sergent Beria says
''Stalin, if it wasn't for that fine chap''
Aye, Stalin who signed a non aggression pact with Hitler in 1939.
Invaded and carved up Poland with Hitler.
Invaded free Latvia , Estonia , Lithuania and Finland.
Murdered thousands of Polish officers in the Katyn forest in 1940.
Killed thousands of the Red Army officer class in show trials in the 1930s.
Threw millions of people into the Gulag
Aye, Stalin was a fine chap, kind to children and loved animals. Give me a break . You commie git.
Posted by: Steve A, glasgow on 1:31am Tue 13 May 08
The heralds hits would go thru the roof once the word was out a think its got wings!
The heralds hits would go thru the roof once the word was out a think its got wings!
Posted by: Steve A, glasgow on 1:36am Tue 13 May 08
Wullie
You sound in a bad mood the nicht!
Wullie
You sound in a bad mood the nicht!
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 1:37am Tue 13 May 08
Stalin was Georgian
Hitler was Austrian
Napolean was Corsican
Gordon Broon is Scots.
Stalin was Georgian
Hitler was Austrian
Napolean was Corsican
Gordon Broon is Scots.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 1:44am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Steve A[/bold] wrote:
Wullie
You sound in a bad mood the nicht![/quote] Stevie I was just about to go to bed and have sweet dreams when the two squawking, squealing, banshees turned up . Mrs Cartbitch and Mrs Oddserver and wrecked everything.
Steve A wrote:
Wullie
You sound in a bad mood the nicht!
Stevie I was just about to go to bed and have sweet dreams when the two squawking, squealing, banshees turned up . Mrs Cartbitch and Mrs Oddserver and wrecked everything.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 1:48am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Scunnert[/bold] wrote:
Wullie - I believe the lady in question is a labour troll. She rarely comments on the article in question preferring to attack other posters without cause or provocation. But then, what can one expect of someone who thinks "black people make good dancers"?
[/quote] Aye Scunnert . Cartwitch is a racist. End of story.
Scunnert wrote:
Wullie - I believe the lady in question is a labour troll. She rarely comments on the article in question preferring to attack other posters without cause or provocation. But then, what can one expect of someone who thinks "black people make good dancers"?
Aye Scunnert . Cartwitch is a racist. End of story.
Posted by: Wullie, Aberdeen on 1:57am Tue 13 May 08
Cartwich ( A Woman )
Why have you chosen a moniker which has hidden your sexuality ?
Are you ashamed of being a woman ? Do you think if you wrote under a woman's name, no one would take your views seriously. Is that it ?
Cartwich ( A Woman )
Why have you chosen a moniker which has hidden your sexuality ?
Are you ashamed of being a woman ? Do you think if you wrote under a woman's name, no one would take your views seriously. Is that it ?
Posted by: Steve A, Glasgow on 2:01am Tue 13 May 08
Never mind wullie a still had gid laugh your even funnier when your angry!!!
Never mind wullie a still had gid laugh your even funnier when your angry!!!
Posted by: Wardog, Buckie on 2:27am Tue 13 May 08
[bold]FAO EDITOR[/bold]
Can the Herald explain why comments are being continual banned from story's relating to Wendy Alexander.
Can you confirm/deny rumours that Scottish Labour are making complaints to the Herald to try and minimise open discussion and criticism of her policies?
I think the blogging community on these threads really deserves some kind of explanation here.
[bold]Wardog[/bold]
FAO EDITOR
Can the Herald explain why comments are being continual banned from story's relating to Wendy Alexander.
Can you confirm/deny rumours that Scottish Labour are making complaints to the Herald to try and minimise open discussion and criticism of her policies?
I think the blogging community on these threads really deserves some kind of explanation here.
Wardog
Posted by: Steve A, glasgow on 2:36am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Wardog[/bold] wrote:
[bold]FAO EDITOR[/bold] Can the Herald explain why comments are being continual banned from story's relating to Wendy Alexander. Can you confirm/deny rumours that Scottish Labour are making complaints to the Herald to try and minimise open discussion and criticism of her policies? I think the blogging community on these threads really deserves some kind of explanation here. [bold]Wardog[/bold] [/quote] Why bother wardog let them protect their political pygmy for now. We will all get our chance soon enough!
Wardog wrote:
FAO EDITOR Can the Herald explain why comments are being continual banned from story's relating to Wendy Alexander. Can you confirm/deny rumours that Scottish Labour are making complaints to the Herald to try and minimise open discussion and criticism of her policies? I think the blogging community on these threads really deserves some kind of explanation here. Wardog
Why bother wardog let them protect their political pygmy for now. We will all get our chance soon enough!
Posted by: gavin48, Glasgow on 2:43am Tue 13 May 08
Ok herald what happened to the comments on other stories, there was a good going discussion happening on the one on LIT. It was informative and helpful. Please explain why you felt you had to stop comments.
For anyone interested go to Glasgow Council website they have a ready calculator for LIT http://www.glasgow.g
ov.uk/
Ok herald what happened to the comments on other stories, there was a good going discussion happening on the one on LIT. It was informative and helpful. Please explain why you felt you had to stop comments.
For anyone interested go to Glasgow Council website they have a ready calculator for LIT http://www.glasgow.g
ov.uk/
Posted by: leroy on 3:03am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Steve A[/bold] wrote: Wullie You sound in a bad mood the nicht![/quote] Stevie I was just about to go to bed and have sweet dreams when the two squawking, squealing, banshees turned up . Mrs Cartbitch and Mrs Oddserver and wrecked everything.[/quote] Priceless
Wullie wrote:
Steve A wrote: Wullie You sound in a bad mood the nicht!
Stevie I was just about to go to bed and have sweet dreams when the two squawking, squealing, banshees turned up . Mrs Cartbitch and Mrs Oddserver and wrecked everything.
Priceless
Posted by: Jimbo on 3:13am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]Wardog[/bold] wrote:
[bold]FAO EDITOR[/bold] Can the Herald explain why comments are being continual banned from story's relating to Wendy Alexander. Can you confirm/deny rumours that Scottish Labour are making complaints to the Herald to try and minimise open discussion and criticism of her policies? I think the blogging community on these threads really deserves some kind of explanation here. [bold]Wardog[/bold] [/quote] Hi Wardog,
maybe they're trying to help out, and increase, the online comments on the Hootsman site. I hear the Hootsman is having problems getting advertisers. The more hits they get online the more online adverts they can get.
They must know that by banning us here, we'll all go over there.
Wardog wrote:
FAO EDITOR Can the Herald explain why comments are being continual banned from story's relating to Wendy Alexander. Can you confirm/deny rumours that Scottish Labour are making complaints to the Herald to try and minimise open discussion and criticism of her policies? I think the blogging community on these threads really deserves some kind of explanation here. Wardog
Hi Wardog,
maybe they're trying to help out, and increase, the online comments on the Hootsman site. I hear the Hootsman is having problems getting advertisers. The more hits they get online the more online adverts they can get.
They must know that by banning us here, we'll all go over there.
Posted by: Watson, Irvine on 4:29am Tue 13 May 08
FAO EDITOR
Can the Herald explain why comments are being continual banned from story's relating to Wendy Alexander.
Can you confirm/deny rumours that Scottish Labour are making complaints to the Herald to try and minimise open discussion and criticism of her policies?
I think the blogging community on these threads really deserves some kind of explanation here.
Wardog
What is the Herald playing at?
FAO EDITOR
Can the Herald explain why comments are being continual banned from story's relating to Wendy Alexander.
Can you confirm/deny rumours that Scottish Labour are making complaints to the Herald to try and minimise open discussion and criticism of her policies?
I think the blogging community on these threads really deserves some kind of explanation here.
Wardog
What is the Herald playing at?
Posted by: Traquir, Alba on 4:57am Tue 13 May 08
I was going to post this on the Wendy thread but given
that the Scottish Pravda has censored it I guess
this thread will have to do :
--- BREAKING NEWS ---
Yet another U-turn by Wendy, she had previously
said that she would never dance a Scottish Jig
for Alex Salmond, but she has now u-turned
and resurrected the Auld Alliance with France
to compromise on a French Jig.
tinyurl.com/5couq7
I was going to post this on the Wendy thread but given
that the Scottish Pravda has censored it I guess
this thread will have to do :
--- BREAKING NEWS ---
Yet another U-turn by Wendy, she had previously
said that she would never dance a Scottish Jig
for Alex Salmond, but she has now u-turned
and resurrected the Auld Alliance with France
to compromise on a French Jig.
tinyurl.com/5couq7
Posted by: Blarney, Edinburgh on 6:35am Tue 13 May 08
By not allowing comments on Wendy Alexander stories, the Herald is once again showing how closely linked it is to the Labour Party.
However, we will all still get to see that she will not demand the return of the care funds from London, just like Joke McConnel.
And no doubt because the SNP will, they are once again picking fights, and if the tories do, then we will be accused of an unholy alliance with them.
Taxi for Labour!
By not allowing comments on Wendy Alexander stories, the Herald is once again showing how closely linked it is to the Labour Party.
However, we will all still get to see that she will not demand the return of the care funds from London, just like Joke McConnel.
And no doubt because the SNP will, they are once again picking fights, and if the tories do, then we will be accused of an unholy alliance with them.
Taxi for Labour!
Posted by: Blarney, Edinburgh on 6:38am Tue 13 May 08
Ahhh! Nice one Traquir.
Posted by: george alexander, north lanarkshire on 6:49am Tue 13 May 08
[bold]HERALD CENSORSHIP RETURNS !![/bold]
The Herald has re-introduced censorship of online comments. It has now been extended to other political articles and not just the Wendy 'U' turn articles.
Notice how The Herald will act to ban all comments when Labour are in turmoil but flatly ref
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